Welcome to Small Council, the place the writers at WiC chat concerning the newest in Recreation of Thrones, A Track of Ice and Hearth, and actually anything that catches our curiosity. Between HBO releasing new footage from season eight and revealing the principal forged members of its Recreation of Thrones prequel collection, there’s so much to speak about. Start!
DAN: I really feel like I’ve talked sufficient concerning the new season eight footage, fascinating although it’s, however I’m curious to listen to what everybody thinks concerning the forged announcement for the prequel. Simply so we’re all on top of things, listed here are their names: Naomi Ackie, Denise Gough, Jamie Campbell Bower, Sheila Atim, Ivanno Jeremiah, Georgie Henley, Alex Sharp and Toby Regbo. S.J. Clarkson is directing the pilot.
Heard of any of those individuals? Me neither, which I take as an excellent signal. There are plenty of splashy style exhibits coming around the bend, and some too lots of them appeared stacked with superstar expertise. Henry Cavill in The Witcher, Nick Nolte in The Mandalorian…even HBO’s personal Watchmen present has Jeremy Irons. Recreation of Thrones is well-liked sufficient that HBO might get just about anyone it needed for the prequel. That it’s getting individuals with low profiles speaks signifies to me that HBO is casting them as a result of they’re proper for the half moderately than due to their identify.
And sure, I do know Naomi Watts can also be a part of the forged, however I gained’t begrudge them one identify, and if the present really takes after Thrones, she’ll be a part of an ensemble fairly than the primary draw. Additionally, within the spirit of full disclosure, it’s attainable I nonetheless haven’t absolutely forgiven Jamie Campbell Bower for sucking within the 2007 Sweeney Todd film, however that was principally a casting concern. I can recover from it.
ANYWAY, what do you guys consider the prequel casting? Does it inform us something concerning the nature of the present? And the way ’bout that season eight footage?
COREY: Truthfully, I’m completely high-quality with a lot of the principal forged members being relative unknowns. I’ve heard of a few of them in passing — Regbo is a wonderful sleaze ball on The Final Kingdom — however HBO has greater than earned my belief after its stellar casting on Recreation of Thrones… and principally each different present it makes.
A lot of the Recreation of Thrones forged members have been relative unknowns once they joined up. Positive, Sean Bean and perhaps even Lena Headey have been names, however for a superb variety of the principals, Recreation of Thrones was their first main appearing gig, or within the case of Maisie Williams, her first gig of any type. In the event you can take that assemblage and switch them right into a forged able to giving us seven seasons of splendidly acted moments, you could have my religion going ahead.
As for the brand new season eight clip, I’ve to say I’m not catching the identical vibe as another followers. Sure, I’m guessing that Sansa and Daenerys will do some verbal sparring all through season eight, however I didn’t catch a lot in the best way of animosity. Dany didn’t put on her glowering “bend the knee” face, however a extra placid smile. Sansa is, in fact, leery of Dany, as any sister can be of the brand new girlfriend, notably one with armies and dragons, however wholesome warning and hostility are two various things.
One query I would like answered, although: what the hell is Jorah beaming at within the clip? I don’t assume we’ve ever seen the aged knight look fairly so pleased, and it’s jarring. And don’t inform me Jorah is smiling at Samwell. That’s a glance of pure pleasure, not a smile of gratitude.
SEBASTIAN: I’ve seen few of those forged members earlier than. Naomi Watts is an enormous identify, in fact, and I’ve seen Toby Regbo on The Final Kingdom, however that’s about it. I can’t second your reward for his efficiency, Corey, however that’s in all probability extra influenced by the position he performed being fairly flat and boring. Not a lot anybody might have carried out with that materials.
The primary purpose for me not understanding a number of these actors appears to be that I’m not updated on my Physician Who, nor am I an enormous fan the Harry Potter universe, Twilight or The Chronicles of Narnia. There appears to be considerably of a development to those casting decisions of choosing actresses and actors with some expertise in fantasy productions and I’m not positive I like that. Recreation of Thrones has been drifting within the path of mustache-twirling villains and other forms of one-dimensional and even inconsistent characters lately, as too many fantasy productions have executed earlier than. I’m nonetheless hoping that this path will finish quickly and that the prequel(s) will supply a brand new starting.
The season eight footage additionally probably exhibits us a few of what I’ve not been having fun with an excessive amount of concerning the newer seasons of Recreation of Thrones. Sansa, a serious wrongdoer, is true on the middle of the brand new clip. I worry that we’ll get one other unconvincingly constructed battle, this time with Sansa on one aspect and Dany and Jon on the opposite, just like the one between Sansa and Arya in season 7. I hope I’m improper, although. At this level, I’m extra within the secrets and techniques of the Others than in petty conflicts.
KATIE: When the prequel collection was first introduced, I wasn’t positive how intrigued I’d be, because the present gained’t function the Recreation of Thrones characters I’ve grown to like. However the extra information we get, nevertheless minimal, the extra prospects start to blossom.
It’ll be fascinating to see what the prequel provides when it comes to callbacks, if any, to Recreation of Thrones. Because the collection takes place so many hundreds of years beforehand, it’s potential we gained’t get any references. However then, contemplating the story’s wealthy historical past in addition to Recreation of Thrones’ large success, it appears simply as probably that HBO might simply throw GOT followers a number of Easter eggs.
How does Westeros fare politically with out King’s Touchdown, as an example? With out the Iron Throne, what is going to the characters’ foremost battle revolve round? Will we see any hints of the feuds we’ve come to know between the noble homes? It appears unlikely that the prequel can be devoid of those plot factors and others prefer it. GOT has discovered its success in its portrayal of political intricacies in addition to supernatural parts; this, together with the prequel’s description, would recommend we’ll see these broader themes at play once more. And whereas Westeros could also be a “very totally different place,” the nation didn’t turn out to be that place out of nowhere. So how, exactly, did all of it begin?
I’m additionally curious to see how followers who’ve learn the books and people who are solely show-watchers will theorize concerning the prequel, and whether or not anybody could have the higher hand this time round. Since this collection isn’t based mostly on any strong supply materials, we’d all be in the identical boat. However it in all probability can’t harm to have a backlog of Westerosi historical past at your disposal.
I’ve but to learn the ASOIAF books of their entirety, and I’m selecting to fly blind into the prequel. It provides just a little extra enjoyable and fancy to my musings. If the present actually does delve into Westeros’ “darkest hour,” I’ll take all of the enjoyable and fancy I can get for now.
Naomi Watts’ character is described as “a charismatic socialite hiding a darkish secret.” This sounds about as cleaning soap operatic because it will get, and piqued my ho-hum curiosity higher than any detailed synopsis might have. If I had to decide on any of the noble homes to liken such an outline to, my vote’s on the Tyrells. Whereas Watts and far of the forged have a Lannister look to them, that may be modified with a great dye job, so it doesn’t essentially give us any perception. I’d peg Georgie Henley as a Tully or a Stark however once more, my suppositions listed here are based mostly on seems alone. It’s not a lot of a concrete prediction when make-up artists are simply ready to work their magic.
The range within the forged and manufacturing staff is each a necessity and additional cause to look ahead to the brand new collection. This can lend maybe a extra acute sensitivity to sure points which are prevalent in Westeros in addition to modern-day. Recreation of Thrones tackles the subject of the patriarchal energy construction and every thing that comes with it, however typically the present misses its mark. A behind-the-scenes group with firsthand expertise of prejudice could possibly supply a unique, extra genuine viewpoint. That’s to not say that GOT fails to correctly talk about points like sexism inside the narrative, however it seems to be just like the prequel collection could have a extra well-rounded tackle the political and social points in Westeros.
RAZOR: Wanting on the prequel forged collage jogs my memory of a photograph that was circulated round season 1 of Recreation of Thrones of the younger Stark youngsters standing round with Theon Greyjoy. If you seemed on the photograph, you knew who they have been enjoying.
Whereas we might not know who every forged member is enjoying within the prequel, you will get a really feel for who they’ll characterize. As an example, Naomi Watts and Jamie Campbell Bower — with their sharp, aquiline options — seem like Lannister ancestors to me.
We all know that through the Age of Heroes, Lann the Intelligent tricked the Casterlys out of Casterly Rock and began his circle of relatives, a household that might turn out to be Home Lannister. I’ve thought for some time now that it might be a neat twist to have Naomi Watts play Lann the Intelligent in a gender-swapped position, however with the addition of Jamie Campbell Bower, I’m now rethinking that concept.
Alex Sharp and Georgie Henley seem like Starks to me. Sharp might even play the legendary Bran the Builder, assuming the present consists of him. I’m additionally very intrigued by the various casting. I need to see what’s happening in Essos because the Lengthy Night time descends the world over.
I’ve all types of questions concerning the prequel; it makes me really feel like we did again in 2009-2010, once we all knew HBO was adapting Recreation of Thrones. It’s an thrilling time for everybody, and I can’t wait to write down about it.
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